Not gonna lie, as a Supernatural fan I was waiting for Mark Sheppard to show up as Crowley after the title of this episode appeared – alas, we didn’t get a Crowley cameo. From the reviews, some people were critical of this episode that “nothing happened to move the story forward” but I 100% disagree. This episode gave us the kind of insights I crave the most – the emotional and psychological ones. It didn’t move the story forward a great deal if the ‘story’ is ‘get the V1’ but to me the fascinating story is that of the characters and their relationships, and we got A LOT of insights about that.
WARNING: MAJOR SPOILERS AHEAD FOR THE BOYS EPISODE 5.04!
How to Sell a Lunatic as the New God
Samaritan’s Embrace is bankrupt and Homelander is convinced he’s a God, and those two things work together to make a dark statement about religion and power as The Boys continues to reflect some of our darkest reality in a truly disturbing way. Homelander continues to fascinate me as he uses his hallucination of Madelyn and the delusions of grandeur that followed to move ahead with his plan to be the savior of the world. He’s still very much obsessed with his own family though, the episode opening with him sadly looking at a phone of him and Ryan and then accusing Firecracker of smelling like Soldier Boy (which he’s absolutely correct about).
He tells Firecracker that he was visited by an angel who foretold his destiny.
Firecracker: Well praise be – what is it?
When he answers ‘God’, she thinks he means serving the lord, but he quickly corrects her. He won’t be serving the lord, he’ll BE the lord. The messiah.
Homelander is making sense of his tragic life and all its hardships as the price he’s had to pay for being special and destined to be god, and he’s convinced Firecracker saw it all along and she’s not about to dissuade him. Therefore, he informs her, he’s chosen her to spread the word – since they control the media.
Homelander: Jesus would kill for our marketing.
Firecracker: WTF face
(This is a theme throughout the episode, which is peppered with small humorous moments like WTF faces to break up the too-close-to-reality darkness).
We get a typical The Boys scene intended to make most people say ‘ewww’ with Ashley and Oh Father, who married for PR but have discovered that she loves punishing him and he loves being punished, so they make enough noise to disgust the guards at the door and send his ball gag flying with enough force that it breaks the wall when he screams in ecstasy, ‘Back Ashley’ enjoying the show as voyeur. She reads his mind when he’s unguarded though, and realizes that the church is bankrupt.
Just then Firecracker shows up and gets to deliver a Soldier Boy-worthy gross line – “Dang, smells like a wet shit in a Waffle House in here”.
I admit that got the “ewww” the show was going for.
Some of the Seven minus Homelander and Soldier Boy meet at Vought Tower to brainstorm how they can make Homelander being God palatable to the masses.
Worm: What we need is a good story, who’s read Joseph Campbell?
I like Worm. Bring him some tasty dirt, someone.
The PR lady, on the other hand, does not like Worm, saying no wonder his last film got a low rating on the AV Club (which is a real thing and a nudge at fandom ala what Supernatural used to do in its meta episodes, so it made me smile).
Worm: I had to service fourteen main characters and cross over a bunch of assholes – you try to make a good finale out of that!
(Writers getting meta and putting a writer character into the canon, it’s the series’ last season after all and Kripke has spoken openly about being worried about fan reception of the series finale – he didn’t write the ending to Supernatural, but that finale certainly came with a range of reactions!)
It’s Firecracker who comes up with the idea that they need a church that preaches America and convinces the masses that the real American hero is Homelander, and he’s their savior. The Democratic Church of America. Voila, kill two birds with one stone, rescue her hubby’s failing church and find a way to get people to accept Homelander as god.
I am sincerely shocked that doesn’t exist with exactly that name already, to be honest.
Fathers and Daughters
A variation on the theme of fathers and sons that has so characterized this season and this show, Annie pays her estranged father a visit. I know some people thought this was a needless detour but I loved exploring her backstory more and finally knowing what the real story was with her dad. Turns out he’s remarried and Annie has a half brother, Mason.
Annie: WTF face.
There are family portraits around the house, and a “In This House We Believe in Homelander” sign in the window. Annie is surprised to find out her father is in law enforcement, and asks if he’s rounding up Starlighters.
Mason: You mean terrorists?
Much like MM’s family in earlier seasons, we get to see how “ordinary people” are being very effectively brainwashed by Vought’s constant propaganda, which hits frighteningly close to reality. Annie says she’s sorry she put them in danger by coming and says she’ll leave, but the mom encourages her to stay and take a shower and wash her dirty clothes and have some Hamburger Helper and who can turn that down?
She has a heart to heart with her dad, wearing PJs and looking young and vulnerable while her clothes are washed. He explains that they made everyone put the Homelander signs up, that they answer to a supe named Livewire now. He insists he doesn’t round up Starlighters, though – when that order comes in, he catches the flu. The others, he says, believe that Starlighters are coming for their kids.
Annie: But that’s a lie that Vought sells.
Me: Okay Kripke, for real, how are you making this so perfectly aligned with the horrors that are actually happening??
Her dad says he knows, but points out that the last guy that spoke up disappeared in the middle of the night with his wife and kids. He’s not proud of this, he says, but he has a family to protect. Annie’s hurt, realizing that the narrative she has of her dad and why he left is wrong.
Annie: I told myself you didn’t want kids, but maybe you just didn’t want me.
Her dad shows her a box full of articles and newspaper clippings and tickets to The Dawn of the Seven, saying he didn’t always approve of her choices but he was proud of her – maybe even more proud when she quit. We also find out that Annie’s parents met on a church mission, both wanting to save the world, with her mother becoming certain that giving her the V would give her a better life and a way to do just that. It’s a small scene, but gives so much insight into how this CAN happen – how someone can convince themselves that this is the way to be a “good person”. Then, her dad explains, she started telling Annie that she was chosen by God, taken in by the propaganda and lies and somehow rationalizing it as still trying to do good in the world. Her dad couldn’t keep up that lie. He apologizes, says he should’ve stood up for her, should have been there. She admits she also ran away from someone she loves, and he reminds her that “the people we love aren’t a weakness, they’re the reason we fight.”
Me: That is a very Sam and Dean thing to say. Always keep fighting!
She tries to talk to her brother too.
Annie: You go to school at Homelander Academy then watch TikToks all day, how is the truth supposed to compete with that?
Me: Indeed. Ouch.
They bond over chocolate crème filled donuts from Dunkin though, a ritual they both shared with their dad.
Then the local sheriff shows up – Mason gave them a tip that Starlight was there. Her dad stands up for her, admitting she’s his daughter and saying she’s not a serial killer, asking the sheriff to let her go. The sheriff is reluctant – he’s an everyman, put in the difficult position of being in danger if he does the right thing, and doesn’t that just feel too close to home? The sheriff protests that he’s not dying at a prison camp for her. Annie’s eyes glow as she confronts the sheriff, telling him to walk away.
He says no. Finally the dad yells ‘Stop!’ and gives a speech that made me have to scream about it being horrifically relevant and once again to question if Kripke is prescient.
Dad: Fucking stop! We sit next to each other in church… I’m scared too, but what Vought’s been making us do, pulling our neighbors out of their homes and sending them god knows where, you know it’s wrong. Annie is my daughter and I love her. She’s not what they say she is. She’s a good person. If good people stop doing the right thing, what chance do we have?
I think I yelled out “YES!”
I was actually shocked when for once the worst case scenario does not happen and the sheriff agrees to give her an hour to be gone. Mason apologizes and they say goodbye, her dad telling Annie not to make the same mistake he did and give up on the people you love. The series is so dark at this point that these subplots that don’t end in tragedy are the ones that feel shocking – the show needs that balance and this episode had it, both in these reminders of hope and the little moments of humor.
The Boys versus The Boys
Ryan comes to at Butcher’s and they talk about fucked up father-son relationships and somehow Ryan does not know that Darth Vader is Luke’s dad, which really tells you something about how weirdly sheltered his life with his mother was. Butcher tells Ryan he should have waited to go after Homelander, but Ryan accuses Butcher of not giving a shit about him and leaves. Can’t say I blame him.
Mother’s Milk puts all his jewelry back on, all in on going after the V1. Kimiko hugs Hughie and Frenchie looks jealous. Everyone has sort of had it with Butcher. Hughie is eager to head to Fort Harmony, since Homelander has Stan Edgar and is probably ahead of them in going after the V1 and he’s adamant they need to get it first to save Annie and Kimiko. Off they go to Fort Harmony. If the deserted old place wasn’t ominous enough, they find dead people strewn all over the grounds and no birds or animals anywhere.
As they get closer, everyone begins to get even more brittle with each other than they were already – or at least we can see this is what’s happening in hindsight. Hughie is angry at Annie, saying he almost died and Annie made it all about her and just took off. He also brings up the trauma of being fooled by the Annie shapeshifter who bad touched him, feeling like she made that about herself too.
Hughie: She can be such a fucking bitch!
He looks shocked by how that came out and apologizes for how harsh it was, and we’re all pretty shocked too. A little clue to what’s happening – I enjoy those little out of character moments that are later explained.
They make their way inside the dark deserted building, Kimiko making some good points and then Butcher saying them as his own shortly after. She calls him on it, saying she just said that and asking if anyone is ever gonna listen to her?
Butcher: As soon as you say something worth listening to, luv.
They all start brawling after that, Hughie accusing Butcher of dragging MM down into the shit with him and Kimiko yelling at Frenchie that she’s not his fucking pet and Frenchie the only one not affected trying to point out that there’s something wrong about the place.
Me: Oooooh it’s like Supernatural’s ‘Asylum’ episode or that classic Star Trek where Spock inhales spores and all the emotions he always represses come blurting out!
That’s not a useless one-off episode to me, that’s a chance to hear everyone’s subconscious anger and the things they don’t want to say, an exaggerated version of the jealousies and dark emotions they’re all hiding from each other. Maybe it’s me with my psychologist hat on, but I love it!
The deeper they get into the building searching for the lab, the more dead bodies they discover, realizing they killed each other. Frenchie, the only one thinking clearly (unaffected because of his history of being an addict), realizes it might be toxoplasmosis, which makes them react with explosive anger and murder each other. They have no choice but to keep going, and finally find the lab and one bottle – it’s empty. There’s heroin left behind, but no V1. They theorize maybe it was Bombsight who beat them to it, wondering what he’d need V1 for, since he was already injected with it?
Butcher lets it slip that if Bombsight has the V, it saves them from having to torch the place, which was apparently his and MM’s plan all along. Hughie is enraged, realizing they’re okay with Kimiko and Annie being collateral damage. He turns on Butcher, yelling that if there was anything human in him, it’s dead, that he’s just a fucking monster, as bad as Homelander and maybe worse. MM turns on Butcher too and says he cheered when they thought he was dying. They all attack each other, throwing each other around the room, quite literally trying to kill each other. Hughie runs away and when cornered MM does too, a moment of amusement in the middle of all the chaos.
The Deep and Noir: No More Bros
They’re not the only ones turning on each other. In the last episode, the Deep knocked out Black Noir to present Stan Edgar to Homelander on his own. The Deep, who started out as a character who was an absolute asshole but who had some incongruous ethics about not killing sea life, has lost even that ethical stance. He has a snack before his podcast while Black Noir watches, his mask off. Where once the Deep was traumatized by having to eat his friend Timothy the octopus, he’s now eating sushi, rationalizing it with “it’s probably the highest honor a fish can have, being eaten by me.”
Black Noir goes off on him, knocking the sushi onto the floor and accusing the Deep of fucking him over. He’s angry that he went full method and totally committed to it for nothing (thereby squashing the rumors that Noir was not actually Noir and maybe a clone of Homelander like in the comics).
Noir: I thought we were friends! I had your back every time people laughed at how dumb you are.
Deep refuses to believe people are saying that, then admits he wanted the sole credit for handing Edgar over to Homelander, stabbing his ‘friend’ in the back.
Deep: It’s a doggy dog world.
Noir: Is that what you think that phrase is?
I laughed out loud at that, one of my favorite lines in the episode. The Deep is counting on the fact that Homelander now loves him best, but Noir questions whether he really thinks he’s more important to Homelander than his own father. When they do their (disgusting) radio show, instead of Black Noir hitting the button that says he agrees, he keeps hitting the “Fuck You” button.
Fathers and Sons
Homelander and Soldier Boy are not exactly getting along swimmingly either. Sister Sage summons Soldier Boy (after telling the US president that he needs to defund the public schools and give all the kids vouchers to the Homelander Freedom Academies so kids don’t end up reading about gay penguins and becoming woke.)
Every single episode makes me rant about how Kripke and company got it so right when they wrote this two years ago.
Soldier Boy is not happy about being summoned and has to say something gross about the last time he let a black woman boss him around which involved a cock ring and tub of Crisco. Somehow Jensen Ackles pulls off these ridiculous lines, though I think they could be used more sparingly for more effect, but this one was amusing. It’s also amusing that Dean Winchester never got to say ‘cock’ once in 15 years of Supernatural but it seems to be Soldier Boy’s favorite word in the universe.
They’re working on another Vought film and he wants a big tub of cocaine in his trailer.
Soldier Boy: It’s in my rider.
Sage: From 1984.
She tells him to take it up with Homelander and casually drops the news that he’s on his way to Fort Harmony.
Soldier Boy: WTF face.
Sage uses her smarts to manipulate everyone so masterfully, casually asking Soldier Boy, isn’t that where Dr. Vought injected you? She taunts him about how great it will be when Homelander finds it, he’ll be immune and immortal too, and they can spend eternity together, father and son…. Or maybe he could go with him, show him where to look…. After all, she says, who knows that place better than you?
He’s rattled. She’s good.
Sure enough, Soldier Boy and Homelander make their way through the woods, bickering the entire time. Homelander’s cape catches on a branch and almost knocks him down.
Soldier Boy: You know, Orson Welles wore a cape. To cover his fat ass.
Homelander: Well, we could fly the rest of the way.
Soldier Boy: I told you, you’re not fucking carrying me!
He nearly trips over some corpses.
Soldier Boy: Oh my god, a couple o’ Uggos! Friends of yours?
Antony Starr and Jensen Ackles together are gold, especially when they’re bickering. On a more serious note, Homelander asks him what changed his mind about helping him.
Soldier Boy: Firecracker said you looked up to me. Guess you’re not a complete idiot.
Homelander: I never said that!
Clara Vought comes up, Homelander asking if Soldier Boy knew her back in the day. He says he fucked her once or twice, that’s all.
Homelander: You did? I guess we’re related in more ways than one.
Awkward. Soldier Boy refuses to believe she’s dead, saying she’d never off herself and asking if Homelander actually saw a body.
Hmmmmmm… A lot of this episode is setting up Vought Rising, but I wonder if Stormfront is alive in the present too, in spite of what we’ve believed. Or does Homelander just not want to own up to what actually happened to her and how he … interacted… with her after. You never know with supes!
When they get to Fort Harmony, there’s a poignant shot of Soldier Boy’s face as he looks up at the “Fort Harmony Medical Department” sign engraved on the building, remembering the horrors he endured there.
Jensen Ackles can say so much with just an expression and he does so here; you can see the PTSD flash across his face with each memory before he shakes it off and goes inside.
They’re more and more affected by the toxoplasmosis too, though it’s harder to tell since they attack each other regularly anyway and both always have a macho front up 24/7.
Soldier Boy: Last time I was here, I was fresh off the front lines, still picking Nazi brains outta my hair. Only the best of the best got selected.
Homelander: Oh yeah, I forgot how tough you were…
Soldier Boy retorts that he’s not the weirdo who doesn’t fuck, because that’s one of the tenets of toxic masculinity and he has bought into it a thousand percent.
Soldier Boy: Your cock’s as useless as your cape – what’s the point of being famous if you’re not getting your dick wet?
Homelander: Oh my dick was soaking wet when I pulled it outta Stormfront and wiped it on her fucking chin!
Soldier Boy jerks his head to stare at his son so fast he must have nearly gotten whiplash. Clearly he has a lot of feelings when it comes to Clara Vought. I noted in last week’s review that I was getting impatient to see some of Soldier Boy’s vulnerability that we got glimpses of in Season 3, and this episode delivered. As they walk on, Homelander turns on Soldier Boy even more viciously, attacking the toxic masculinity that is so integral to his whole identity.
Homelander: Tough guy, my ass! Your whole bit, this whole guts and glory thing, what a fucking joke. I read your file, your brother won a Silver Star for bravery, that’s what made you beg your father to buy you a spot in Dr. Vought’s trials. It killed you to see your brother dripping in all that glory, making you look all the more feeble in comparison…. I know that when they tried to inject you with the V you were so fucking terrified that they had to strap you to the table, you were pitiful, you pissed yourself crying for your mommy like the spoiled little rich boy you are. They gave you the world, and you, you deserve nothing!
He’s hitting Soldier Boy with the worst possible weapons – words that tear down his carefully constructed macho persona and expose what he fears he really is, that weakness that his father despised and rejected him for, that he’s spent his life desperately trying to cover up. It seems he tried to back out of being injected but was forced to go through with it. It’s pretty heartbreaking honestly. Of course, Soldier Boy gets revenge, locking Homelander in a cage with enriched uranium. Sage was right, he does know his way around.
Soldier Boy: They’d stick us supes in there to see if we could survive an Atomic bomb. Good luck getting out of a supe proof cage while you’re bleeding outta your ass.
Homelander tries to laser him; Soldier Boy smirks.
He leaves him there, promising to go destroy any V1 he finds.
Soldier Boy: You don’t get it, how much I can’t fucking stand you.
OUCH.
No matter how awful these two are, that was a hard scene to watch. And the more we learn about everything that was done to both of them in the past, the more their incredible fucked-up-ness makes sense. It doesn’t excuse it, but it sure as hell does explain it. Dr. Vought -and his alliance with the US – was as much an abuser and torturer as the Russians eventually were, clearly. And unsurprisingly. It reminded me of the episode where we saw flashbacks of similar ‘experiments’ they did on Homelander when he was just a child, locking him in to see the effects of radiation, which he describes as excruciating torture. These two are so awful, but they have also been through so much trauma and torture. It makes my feelings about them constantly confusing!
Butcher finds Homelander suffering in the box, radiation burns all over his face, and snickers, taunting him with “if only the world could see you now, not so fucking super, are ya? Did your dad put you in time out? Gotta sting, he’d rather spend eternity all alone than with the likes of you.”
Butcher is as good at getting to Homelander as Homelander is at getting to Soldier Boy. He tells Homelander that even if he did get the V1 in him because he thinks that will make him a god, he still won’t be happy – deep down he’ll still be just a weak needy little boy.
Butcher is so much like Homelander and Soldier Boy, just as bought into toxic masculinity as they are, just as misogynistic in coding being “weak and needy” as the worst possible things you could ever be. And his taunts cut just as deep.
Homelander, half insane, realizes the boys don’t have the virus and insists they have no way to stop him, that he’ll get the V1 and filet them alive, all the nonbelievers. Butcher retorts that before he dies, “I’ll fucking have ya” as Homelander yells “This is my birthright – my destiny!”
The Quinn Question
Frenchie, the only one still thinking clearly amidst the others all flaying each other alive, finds the source of their rage poison in a man embedded in the wall with vines extending all through the building. The King of Hell I guess?
He taunts Soldier Boy with raspberries like it’s a Monty Python movie to get Soldier Boy to follow him there.
Soldier Boy: WTF?
Frenchie leads him to the man in the wall, and Soldier Boy stops in his tracks, saying “My God – Quinn.”
Frenchie realizes they know each other, that they must have been in Vought’s trials together.
Soldier Boy: You hated me! I was just a rich entitled asshole, never seen a lick of real combat, huh? You still fucking hate me, don’t you?
Frenchie tells Soldier Boy that it’s a creature of nothing but hate who is making them all hate, and that he is the only one who can put him out of his misery.
Soldier Boy sneers, insisting he likes him like this. He faces the man in the wall, yelling “Oh I didn’t deserve what I got, huh? Fuck you! Cuz I still got it – I got all of it, I fucking won!”
I forget sometimes how terrifying Ackles can be – Soldier Boy is scary as hell in that moment. Frenchie realizes if Soldier Boy doesn’t kill Quinn, they’ll all die, so he taunts him on behalf of Quinn, saying he knows why Quinn hates him — he sees him for what he really is, not a real soldier, just a boy playing dress up who got to be the hero while Quinn ended up here.
Frenchie (channeling Quinn): It should be you up there, you’re nothing but a coward!
Soldier Boy: I said shut your fucking mouth!
He begins to glow, grunting and groaning, and then a blast explodes from his chest as Frenchie jumps behind him. The blast destroys Quinn.
Hughie and Kimiko and MM snap out of it, apologizing to each other.
Soldier Boy falls to his knees, distraught.
Soldier Boy: Fuck, I’m so sorry, so fucking sorry.
He hangs his head, looking more defeated than we’ve ever seen him.
Homelander finally breaks out of the box, weakened and bloodied. He finds Soldier Boy sitting alone in the lab, hunched over, the picture of despair.
Homelander’s eyes glow as he prepares to kill his father. Soldier Boy turns to him, not trying to defend himself. His eyes are wet with tears.
Soldier Boy: The V1 wasn’t here.
Homelander: Are you – are you crying?
His eyes stop glowing. He looks confused, uncertain.
Soldier Boy: Just fucking do it already.
He seems resigned to his fate, maybe wanting it.
They look at each other, both silent.
Homelander slowly backs away and leaves.
Soldier Boy looks down, broken.
Homelander has never seen him this shaken, this vulnerable. And neither have we.
I know I shouldn’t be grateful that either of them have survived or that they decided not to kill each other, but I am. Damn you, Ackles and Starr!
The Aftermath
The boys have an awkward car drive back. Butcher puts on the radio and “A little bit of Monica in my life” plays incongruously. Later, Kimiko thanks Frenchie for stepping up and apologizes for calling him a feckless junkie manwhore, which he points out he once was. He promises her he can be whatever she needs, but she tells him she doesn’t want to change him – she wants to change herself. That she can speak now because she did so much work to let go of her chaos.
Kimiko: The thing is, you love chaos, you thrive in it. I can’t go back to that.
Frenchie: So where does that leave us?
There’s no easy answer.
Annie returns and runs into Hughie’s arms. She apologizes for not being there and he says it was actually a super good day to miss, which is a real understatement.
Butcher and MM watch the old Russian videos of Soldier Boy’s torture, a truly messed up bonding experience. It makes me nervous even though I know it shouldn’t. They both admit they meant every word they said while under the influence of the rage juice, but also are cool to just keep going, sharing a few beers.
The Vought PR machine kicks into high gear, on the show and in the consistently brilliant X account.
Oh Father makes a major announcement on TV, a giant spectacle in front of an excited audience. He tells them they will be patriots of faith, committing themselves to a divine rebranding, as Samaritan’s Embrace becomes The Democratic Church of America. (In other words, how to get out of bankruptcy and co-opt religion for power).
Oh Father: And here to set our holy plan in motion – he’s not just a man, not just a super man, he’s the Prophet of the Lord!
The lights go out, there’s a sound wave that rushes through the audience, then the lights come on and Homelander appears as the crowd goes wild.
Ashley to Firecracker: I love all this, but don’t you believe in Jesus or whatever?
Firecracker: I did – now I believe in Homelander.
And isn’t that the best way to sum up what seems to have happened to so many people in real life too?? This show is absolutely chilling in its depiction of the actual horrors around us. People who believed in “Jesus or whatever” now perfectly fine with someone depicting themselves as him and doing whatever the hell they want. Ouch.
Homelander looks out over the crowd, raises his arms, as everyone stands up and cheers.
Internally he doesn’t hear any of it.
Butcher was right.
What an ending, reminiscent of so many spectacles we’ve seen recently of political figures on similar stages with similar messages. How do you do it, Kripke??
I am so intrigued by that last quiet scene with Soldier Boy and Homelander, by the genuine emotion we saw in Soldier Boy and by his apology to Quinn that seemed sincere. He seemed heartbroken and remorseful and full of regret, and without the walls he always keeps up. He let Homelander see him with tears in his eyes and didn’t even try to hide. And Homelander didn’t take advantage of his vulnerability; he walked away. Was it a moment of humanity, however fleeting, for them both? Will it be swept under the rug next episode or will it change anything between them? And who was Quinn – a comrade in arms also tortured by Vought, or could he have been more? Some are wondering if Quinn was Ben’s brother and that’s why he’s so distraught. Frenchie’s comment seemed to imply he was a comrade, but Homelander bringing up how Ben’s brother felt about him might be a clue otherwise. I can’t wait to find out!
Meanwhile, in real life Starr and Ackles post hilarious behind the scenes pics and call each other “mijo” and “papi” on Instagram posts.
I was already dying of anticipation for the next episode because it’s the Supernatural reunion with Jared Padalecki as Mr. Marathon and Misha Collins (rumored to be Mr. Marathon’s partner), and now I’m extra excited because of all that happened in this episode. Bring it!!
– Lynn
You can read the actors’ thoughts on their
characters, including Jensen Ackles and
Antony Starr, as well as psychologists’ takes
on them, in the book Supes Ain’t Always
Heroes – details at the website:
